Some comments (and my responses to) historically ignorant or racist colonizers of Palestine trying to justify their indigeneity in the land.
“Tsefan Josef, Big news for you: a) Many palestinians are descendants of Egyptians, as well as Canaanites. b) That land was part of … the New Kingdom of Egypt before the hebrews moved there. So yes, they are indigenous to the land.”
Yes! Correct. These non-Jewish Palestinians are *not* Arabs, did not speak Arabic and did not practice Islam (a 6th century religion created in Arabic speaking Arabia). These non-Jewish Palestinians are victims of Arab Islamic conquests to collonize all of the Middle East. They were brother and sister tribes to Jews. Thus, all non-Arab peoples that now call themselves “Arabs,” speak Arabic, and are Muslim, have had their ethno-religious ancestral identity, language, and religion usurped and robbed from them by Arab supremacy in others nations lands. …. The original Arabic tribes originated in what is now called Hejaz, Najd, and Yemen.
What you’re saying by attempting this argument has its parrallel in the USA. Mexicanos are ethnically indigenous to parts of USA territory. They were assimilated into the white Christian Colonizers culture, language, and religion. All Mexicanos that remain and are *not* resisting white Christian supremacy on the land, are part of the white Christian supremacy problem in the USA. The only indigenous still resisting this white Christian colonized supremacy over the land are the First Nations peoples who preseve their language, their religion, and their governing sovereignty on at least *a portion* of their ancestral land. Sounds a lot like Jews and Israel, no?
“Tsefan Josef However, unlike Palestinians in Israel, members of American Indian tribes have full voting rights in US elections and are US citizens who can settle wherever they wish.”
No. Like Palestinians (assuming you mean Israeli Arabs) in Israel, white folk do everything they can get away with to repress the vote of First Nation folk in Colonizer’s USA elections. Worse, First Nation peoples’ burial grounds are descrated by oil pipelines, and they are treated *no better* within the Colonizer’s USA States than formerly enslaved black people are treated (impoverished, imprisoned, and shot dead simply for not being white at the wrong time among whites). Honesty is the only way to peace.
“So your bullshit racist, nationalist, attempt at denying palestinians their ancient roots to that land is laid bare.”
I’m sorry, my friend, but… Like I have to tell Christian colonizers, so I now have to say here to Muslim colonizers: There is no such thing as reserve racism! Colonizers and all bought into colonizer beliefs and practices make their claims based on the need to maintain religious supremacy. Even if Israel existed on only one percent of historic Jewish lands (rather than the mere seven percent today), even one percent of Jews having self-sovereignty on ancestral land would be too much for Arab Muslim supremacy, and the nakba would still have occurred for the West Bank and Gaza – courtesy of Egypt, Jordan, and Syria. Honesty is the only way to peace!
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“It is not the place of a Jew to grant or deny the right of a Muslim to pray at Mecca, their holiest sight. Likewise, it is not the place of a Muslim to grant or deny (but, mostly deny) the right of a Jew to pray at the Temple Mount in Jerusalem” even within the Al-Aqsa mosque itself.
What’s important to understand, here, about both “religious” and “political” Zionism (Jewish sovereignty in a portion of Judea) are the following:
1 – The third Temple will not get built until the appearance of fully human Jewish mashiach that starts the building of the Temple with the the help of Arabs in the Olam ha’Ba, the world to come, of peace among all nations upon the land.
2 – The Temple will be built directly upon the holiest of holies section, next to the mosque that presently stands, and Israel has never sought to destroy mosques or churches in Judea.
3 – In all the Temples, the past two and future one, it is a Torah mandate that all humans who wish to pray at the Temple be allowed free access to do so – regardless of nation and religion.
4 – Though Christianity is recognized as a pagan idolic religion by Jews, Islam has always been recognized as a truly monotheistic religion in relationship with Rabbinic Judaism.
5 – Listen to me: It is halachically permissible for a Jew to pray in a mosque and for a Muslim to pray in a synagogue in Jewish law!
6 – It is political Islam that is telling people that Jews/Zionists want to wipe out Islam from existence, and it is political Islam that is preventing Jews from praying on our ancestors’ most holiest of sites! Or, encouraging the repeated descration of those sacred ancestral sites.
7 – Still, yet, mosques and churches are everywhere in Israel, and Arab citizens live freely in all the cities of Israel, and the Arab political parties have a growing influence in Israeli politics. But, you wouldn’t know this listening to propaganda outlets, and Western media that primarily and biasely focuses on conflicts.
A Muslim Seeking To Address Islamic Extremism Ask Jews The Hard Questions
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It is very good to see Muslims challenging Islamic antisemiticism!
Abdullah Al-Hadlaq, respected Kuwaiti writer: “When the State of Israel was established in 1948, there was no state called ‘Palestine.'”
Host: “So where did we get that name, which we have been defending for 60 years?” … Great question! Al-Hadlaq answered:
Abdullah Al-Hadlaq: “It didn’t exist.” … *Historically*, the correct answer. “Palestinian” has always referred to Jews, specifically, and to all ethnicities living in the land – ever since the Roman occupiers stripped Judea of its Israeli sovereignty in the 2nd century CE, and renamed the land as Palaestina (Palestine). Ever since then, Muslim colonizers, Christian crusaders, and Persian overseers have all occupied the land under their empires, until Palestinian Jews redeclared self-sovereignty in 1948 – on less than 7% of our Judean land.
77% of historic Israel is an Arab Palestinian nation-State now, known as Jordan. And, Jews voluntarily chose not to claim the West Bank and Gaza, even though these portions technically and legally belong to Israel, all to allow non-Jewish Palestinians the opportunity to create what occupying Jordan and Egypt prevented from 1948 to 1967 – nationhood. But, nationhood is not what the PA and Hamas want, rather that Jews return to being second-class citizens under Muslim dictatorship.
Kuwaiti writer Abdullah Al-Hadlaq said that Israel was an independent and legitimate sovereign state and that there was no occupation, but instead, “a people returning to its promised land.” “When the State of Israel was established in 1948, there was no state called ‘Palestine,'” said Al-Hadlaq. He recalled that he had once written: “I wished that we could be like the people of the State of Israel, who rallied, down to the very last one, to defend a single Israeli soldier.” In the interview, which was broadcast by the Kuwaiti Alrai TV channel on November 19, Al-Hadlaq further said that he believed in peaceful coexistence with Israel and envisioned a three-way alliance of Israel, the Arab Gulf states, and America “in order to annihilate Hizbullah beyond resurrection.” The interview caused an uproar in the Arab media and social networks.
https://www.memri.org/tv/kuwaiti-writer-hadlaq-israel-legitimate-not-occupier-no-palestine
Kuwaiti Writer Abdullah Al-Hadlaq: Israel Is a Legitimate State, Not an Occupier
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